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Date Posted: 2010-05-07
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Conservative party in Europe, Canada are best proof of what lunatics Republicans are and what hoax Obama Democrats are and how Wall Street owned Media is key to this Con Job on US

Conservative parties in UK, Canada, France, Germany, etc. are the best proof of what utter complete lunatics Republicans in US are and how right-wing (LYING) US Media is that it does not point out the facts that I am going to point out below which clearly prove that Republicans in US are lunatics.

Although to be exact some of the Republicans are very very very smart, more on this here.

To be exact the Conservative parties in UK, Germany, Canada, etc. are best proves of how right-wing the Democrats in US are, which means how they govern for benefit of Big pharma, Big insurance, Big banks (aka Wall Street gang), and as a result what Utter complete Lunatics Republicans in US are whom are even to the right of the Democrats.

After all consider the FACT that the conservative party in UK, that is Margaret Thatchers Conservative party, is 100% for their Universal nationalized single payer health care system (aka NHS), which you can read about here:

And quoting from which page the conservative party in UK states:
"Over three years ago David Cameron spelled out his priorities in three letters – NHS. As the party of the NHS, we will never change the idea at the heart of our NHS – that healthcare in this country is free at the point of use and available to everyone based on need, not ability to pay."

or here is the Conservative party of Stephen Harper of Canada:

and quoting from it:
"The Conservative Party of Canada has released its platform, which is committed to ensuring that all Canadians have access to timely, quality health care services regardless of their ability to pay."

Do you get it? The conservative party in UK, that is Margaret Thatchers Conservative party is 100% for their FREE, free for the Taxes that they pay, health care for all. Same as is Stephen Harper's Conservative party in Canada. Same as are ALL the Conservative parties in rest of Europe, Japan, Israel, etc.

And Republicans in US call Universal nationalized health care system (aka NHS) to be "Socialism.." or "Communism...."! That is how truly insane Republicans in US are for according to Republicans in US then the Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Japan, Israel, etc. are "Socialist.." or "Communist...." because ALL these Conservative parties are 100% for their NHS. And Obama/Democrats are such HOAXEs that although they spoke about passing Universal health care when they were running, once in the office they passed a TOTAL JOKE of a health care reform, that is neither Universal nor nationalized, and in fact a Year after passing number of Americans without health care has gone up by another 10Mill.

So WHY are the conservative parties in UK, Canada, Germany, France, Israel, etc. etc. ALL 100% for their Universal nationalized health care systems? Because a real conservative, unlike a lunatic (or agents of Big pharma, Big insurance, aka Republicans), would want Universal nationalized health care since that would mean:

1- great SAVINGS in cost of health care as evident by the FACT that in all the European countries, Canada, Japan, etc. that have not-for-profit Universal nationalized health care, health care is taking about 9% of the GDP while in US that has for profit health care, health care is taking a DEFICIT busting 18% of the GDP.

2- everyone having health care for essentially their obligation to pay Taxes. Which is one of the best investment that you can make in your people and country, given the fact that when people know their health care is covered by the Government and have NO FEAR of going bankrupt due to health care costs, they are then are much more likely to open new small businesses, go to University to get higher and higher degrees, etc.

And here you have the US it is 2011 and it still does not have Universal nationalized health care as they have in UK, Germany, Canada, etc. given the fact that the so called health care bill that Dems passed in Mar/2010 is a total Joke, total give away to the Big pharma and Big insurance, since it is neither Universal nor Nationalized, hek it did not even include the Public option, and the Republicans are such lunatics, such total agents of Big pharma and Big insurance, to call the Joke of the health care reform that Democrats passed to be "Obamacare" and to call the Universal nationalized health care that the Conservative party in UK is 100% for to be "Socialism.." or "Communism...."!

As if "Socialism..." per say is bad since the way Universal nationalized health care is operated in UK, Canada, etc. or other European countries is EXACTLY how we operate the Military, Police, Fire, etc. in US, that is on "Socialized basis", which means the cost of these services are paid from our Taxes and the salary of people involved in these services, such as a 4 Start General or an Admiral, etc. are set by our Government and these services are operated on not-for-profit basis.

Another proof of what a right-wing LYING machine US Media is

Also the above FACTS are another proof as to what a right-wing LYING machine US Media has been, and most of it continues to be, that it does not point out to the above amazing FACTS: that is on one hand the Republicans in US are admirer of the Conservative party in UK, Margaret Thatchers Party, and the Conservative party in UK is 100% for their Universal nationalized single payer health care and on the other hand Republicans call Universal nationalized single payer health care to be "Socialist" or "Communist"!!! And the Democrats in US did not even propose set aside pass real Universal nationalized single payer health car.

And the US Media does not point to this amazing contradiction in the position of the Republicans in US that on one hand they (from Reagan) on called Margaret Thatcher's Conservative party to be epitome of Capitalism and OTOH Margaret Thatcher's Conservative party is 100% for their NHS and OTOH Republicans call NHS to be "Socialism" and will lead to ruin of the economy.

Many other Social services which the Conservative party in UK is for

And there are many other Social services beside Universal nationalized (aka Socialized) health care, which the Conservative parties in UK, Germany, France, etc. are for which the US still does not have and the Democrats are not proposing, such as:

1- Near Universal Education, where you pay almost nothing to go to college and in many countries you are actually paid pocket money on top of your Tuition being free

2- Unemployment benefits that are generally at about 80% of your pay and last about 2 years versus in US where Unemployment benefits are at the utterly ridiculous level of (about) 10% of your pay and last a measly 6 months, unless Congress extends them a few months AND on top of that since there is NO Universal Health Care in US when someone looses their job they loose their health care too while an Unemployed person in Europe does not need to worry about this since they have Universal Health Care in all European countries

3- Expected mothers leave of absence from work at FULL pay for about 1 to 2 years, vs in US where there is NO Law giving expected mothers paid leave of absence at even 50% of pay for even 6 months. To be exact 2 States that is California and NJ have such a law, but it is for a measly low 6 Weeks!

4- Paid vacation per year in Europe by law of 6 to 8 weeks vs US where no such law exists at all and thus you are lucky if you get 2 weeks paid vacations

etc. etc. liberal, pro-Labor and pro-Union laws that they have in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. ALL of which laws or benefits the Conservative parties in UK, Germany, France, Israel, etc. are 100% for and NONE of which Social services or labor benefits the Democrats in US have proposed or are proposing under Obama admin and all of which Social services or labor benefits the Republicans in US and 99% of US Media are against and call them "Socialism.." which again proves what utter complete lunatics Republicans are and how right-wing 99% of US Media are, which means how they work for the benefit of the Big corporations (Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Big Military) and against the benefit of the American (Middle class) people and they have gotten away with this by pulling an Ultimate Con Job on Americans people, which Con Job was before Obama:

"Government is the problem and not the solution",

and has become since Obama:

"We have too high Debt & Deficits"

both of which translated means you the People cannot do anything since this is supposed to be the Government of the People by the People for the People and most importantly it is the only representative that the People have as to what happens to their Taxes, which further Translated means pay Taxes and get nothing for your Taxes for if you ask for anything for your Taxes such as Universal Nationalized Health care we will then call it "Socialism..", which further Translated means pay Taxes and have your Taxes benefit the Big corporations, Big Military, Big Pharma, Big health insurance and not you the People.


(1) More about what a right-wing lying machine most of the US Media is:

(2) 50,000 Americans die each year due to being denied health care due to being ill (aka pre-existing condition)!!!!

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By Member: ThinkDeep

OTN, have you been following News how in France Socialist Francois Hollande is set to win. And that even the party of Jean-Luc Melenchon who is to the left of Socialists may win major seats! Contrast this to USA that we are having a so called Election and our choice is between Republican utter complete lunatic right-wings and Obama that is VERY right-wing.

Just think how INSANELY right-wing US Government has been and amazingly continues to be, that Obama Admin is to FAR FAR RIGHT of Nicolas Sarkozys Conservative party in France, given the FOLLOWING ABSOLUTE FACTS:

1. Nicolas Sarkozys Conservative party is 100% for their Universal nationalized health care system (aka NHS), something that Obama Admin did not even propose set aside pass.

2. Nicolas Sarkozys Conservative party is 100% for their Government mandated 8 Weeks FULLY PAID vacations per year by Law, something that Obama Admin did not even propose set aside pass.

3. Nicolas Sarkozys Conservative party is 100% for French Women having 1 to 2 years of FULLY PAID time off for having a Child, something that Obama Admin did not even propose set aside pass.


So just think how Republicans & right-wing Media in US are such Complete Lunatic LYING Machines, that even though most Democrats (i.e. Obama) are to FAR RIGHT of Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, etc. they call Obama Admin "Socialist" when it is NOT even Liberal!

By Member: World

Excellent post.

Or consider the fact that the 1st Chance that the Rich in US get is to either go on a Vacation to Europe or to buy a House there, etc. And you will NEVER see them vacationing in God For Saken places like Tennessee, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Alabama, Nebraska, etc. places that Vote Republican all the time. States & cities made God For Saken because US Government has made NO investment in these People & Cities under Republican Con Job that:
"Government is the Problem and the Solution"

For example check out this interview of Romney where he fondly talks about Vacationing in Paris, which country according to Republican lunatics is a "Socialist country":

By Guest:   FoxedNewsMan

Your writings are crap since you are for Socialisim.

By Member: Real_News

Whenever you Republicans open your mouth you further prove what utter complete lunatics you are.

To be exact: what have I written that is "Socialism"?
If you are refering to having universal nationalized (socialized) health care (aka NHS), as they have in ALL, repeat for you Republican luantics, ALL dveloped Nations on planet Earth, the way NHS is operated is the same way that we operate the US Military, FireDept, Police Dept, etc.

To be more exact you are a "Socliast" country the moment that you have to pay Taxes for the good of the Society, as we pay in USA, so the ONLY question is what happens to our Taxes? That is, is our Taxes wasted on a Gargantuan Military and unecessary Wars and sent to the Wall Street gang (aka super rich) or is it spent on our people & cities. So you see it is the ultimate brain washing by the Wall Street gang (right-wing Media) of people like you to brain wash you to consider NHS "Socialism" when NHS is operated same way
Military, Fire, Police, etc. are

By Member: republu

Hey nutjob.............take a break and shut up. Your a perfect example of the failed Democrat and brainwashed liberal groups.

By Member: Real_News

Republu, you are just further proof that you Republicans are lunatics by telling me to "Shut up..." because I have published a set of ABSOLUTE FACTS. That is it is an ABSOLUTE FACTS that the Conservative parties in UK, Canada, France, Germany, etc. are 100% for their Universal nationalized (aka Socialized) single payer health care systems. And it is ABSOLUTE FACT that Republicans 100% oppose Universal nationalized health care for American people.

In case you are so brain dead that you can not verify the above FACTS for yourself, Here is the position of Margaret Thatchers Conservative party from UK:

And quoting from it:
"Over three years ago David Cameron spelled out his priorities in three letters – NHS... that healthcare in this country is free at the point of use and available to everyone based on need, not ability to pay."

So if any part of what I have posted is not 100% FACTS, let us know, otherwise you again prove what lunatics you Republicans are.

By Member: hsb83

Now in this article I want to point out that its kind of a large step to say that the EU countries are doing much better than the US economically. I mean, Greece is completely falling apart right now. Other EU members have their GDP plummetting...

Germany in danger of a "double dip" in GDP, recovery fragile

French economy slow recovery after largest drop since WWII

British slow recovery after large contraction in GDP

Greece first nation to default in EU

US GDP growth chart up to jan 2010

The one thing you see in common here is that all the same banks were involved. However, these (with the exception of Greece) are the major EU powers plus the US. Which simply reinforces the point of it doesn't matter how far left or right you go when you're all a part of the same corrupt family.

Jeez, I've been typing so much into your comment box I haven't written in my own this your way of stifling competion? haha

By Member: Real_News

Greece is one country in Europe and not whole of Europe. All those articles that you refer to are just articles, but the FACTS are facts and the FACT is that European economies (as a whole) are doing much better than US economy as EVIDENT by the FACT that Euro is so MUCH MORE VALUABLE than US Dollar.

That is anyone can have an opinion, anyone can refer to a few articles, but the currency markets look at all the FACTS of how one economy is doing vs another and based on ALL THE FACTS the currency markets decide to move their capital into economy that is doing better and that is why Euro is so MUCH MORE VALUABLE than US Dollar.

More on Why is European economy doing great compared to the US now and will continue to do so unless US makes fundamental changes here:

By Member: hsb83

So what you're saying is that, the GDP of a country in no way reflects how well its economic policy is run, since the GDP of America is equivalent to the largest EU countries plus several smaller ones right? You dismiss the articles, since you obviously didn't read them, that show hard numbers on how the economies of the strongest nations in the EU are doing and the truth is they're not doing much better than America's. Here's a question for you, were any of the strongest EU economies not invested in the big American scam? I bet I already know the answer to this one...and I bet there is a reason why their economies began to spike at the same time that the American economy began to spike...what you mean that heavily leaning left governments bought into the all the crap that the heavily leaning right governments did? You mean being far left doesn't make you immune to corruption? These aren't opinions, they are facts. Just because the Euro is valued higher than the dollar doesn't make the EU countries economies stronger, I'm sorry but thats the truth. GDP is by far a better indicator of the strength of a country...

By Member: Real_News

Most of you are saying is just a rant.
But here is FACT: Euro is MUCH MORE valuable than US Dollar and if you know anything about the (currency) markets you would know that currency markets take all the aspects of economies into consideration when deciding with their money and not with their mouth which economy is doing better and going to do better. Also beside the FACT that Euro is MUCH MORE valuable than US Dollar there are many other FACTS as to European economies doing much better than US economy as for example from the evidence of:

Europeans Auto makers doing fine while US ones went bankrupt, with JUST 1 German Auto maker, VW, having a market valuation MANY MANY times of all US Auto makers combined and while in Germany Auto makers did not lay off even ONE German Auto worker while US Auto makers laid off 10s and 1000s of US Auto workers.

By Member: Diakrite

HSB is forgetting one other teensy weensy fact.. The US calculates military spending into GDP, European countries do not . Just a detail, but important to point out.

Yes,Europe is recovering slowly and carefully, but that has more to do with the Conservative(yes! Conservative) way Europe handles and controls the markets. Europe is much less prone to the extremes of bust vs. boom than America. It's just a whole different state of mind than American business has. American business is like "greed is good ,cater all to greed",an as such, the average American will also adopt that mind-set.

Europe is quite different. They have greedy rats galore, but said rats are kept in check by governments truly "by the people for the people", Europe is less individualistic than America. Read "The European Dream" by Jeremy Rifkin, to REALLY see what an enormous cultural rift there is between The USA and The EU. (Let alone the fact that Europe has more gold against it currency than America ,and with the gold price booming, Europe found out the kablooi of the markets in '08 didn't hurt as much as they thought.)

I am not exempting European banks from risky undertakings, but they could only do that on the American markets. The only Northern European country that nearly drowned due to a housing-bubble, was Great Britain, that, coincidentially, has the same lax attitute towards checks and balances in the markets as The USA... GB is, despite their universal healthcare ,much more ruthless right-wing than the rest of Europe, and, as such closer to the USA in mindset. As a result, the GBP has plummeted fron €1.65 to just €1,16 in 5 years. Ooh just checked..plummeted to €1,13 again.... autsch!

By Member: Europal

Good points.
But bottom line is that as the author of this article has written Europeans are doing much better and will do much better than US, as evident bu Euro continuing to be so much more valuable than US Dollar, because Europeans have Universal nationalized health care, Universal education and many other Social services, for the Taxes that they pay. Keeping in mind that Americans pay almost same Taxes as Europeans, IF you are making less than 100K per year. Europeans just get much more for their Taxes and that is why they are getting richer all the time compared to Americans, I mean their middle class and not their Super rich class. Lets put it this way, IF you loose your Job in US you will soon loose your health care too and to go back to school to reeducate yourself that would cost you a bundle while your unemployment insurance payments is next to nothing, while a European who looses his/her Job does not have to worry about their health care costs since they have Universal nationalized health care in all European countries and on top of that they can go to school to reeducate themselves at almost free costs too and on top of that their unemployment payments in Europe are like 10 times of what they are here in US, they are actually a portion of what they were making, and their unemployment lasts much longer too. So they have ample time and support to make themselves better and get a new Job or start a new business, THAT IS WHY European econs are doing and will do much better than US econs, again as you can see from Euro being so much more valuable than US$.

By Member: ThinkDeep

No one but complete lunatics will Vote Republican anymore given that the Internet enables us to see what crazys Republicans are by for example opposing universal health care something that the conservative parties in all European countries are 100% for because only lunatics would oppose universal health care resulting in 50Mill Americans having no health care and health care taking 18% of GDP while in Europe where everyone has health care, health care is taking 9% of GDP, resulting in European economies doing so much better than US economy as evident by Euro being KING to the US dollar.

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